Where AI Meets the Real World of Work

AI at Work is hosted by Matt Graham (CEO of Rapid Dev) and Kevin Williams (CEO of Ascend Labs). Each week delivers actionable insights on how artificial intelligence is reshaping jobs today, and how you can use it to advance your career. We unpack real-world tools, automation workflows, and emerging roles so you can stop chasing hype and start using AI to get things done. Whether you’re an individual contributor, team lead, or business owner, we show you what to build, what to ask for, and what to look for in a workplace moving at machine-speed.
Kevin spent a rainy weekend running up to 10 simultaneous Codex agents across three internal builds and burned two billion tokens. On a consumer plan, propped up by repeated usage resets, that cost him about $125. At retail API rates on GPT 5.6 high, the same weekend runs north of $8,000 to $10,000 and enterprise teams building in Codex fall outside the consumer plan entirely.
Matt and Kevin dig into what that gap means for anyone standing up internal AI infrastructure today. Matt’s team built an internal system that captures every call, Slack message, and email on a client project and flags when something drifts. It runs affordably now. His concern isn’t the build cost it’s what happens if the run cost triples.
They also cover why switching between Claude Code and Codex costs you almost nothing if your code lives in GitHub, why that undercuts the case for price increases, and what happened when Kevin turned a swarm loose on 45 repositories to fix a favicon.
Topics:
– Why AI avatars still fail for self-cloning after three years of trying
– The 82/18 split between deterministic and agentic workflow steps
– LinkedIn bans, bot-detectable IPs, and 200 profile lookups in five minutes
– Codex sidebar chats, work trees, and browser control versus Claude Code
– Two billion tokens, $125, and the $8,000 enterprise equivalent
– The runaway agent that logged into an abandoned Lovable account
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Direct Email: Reach out to Matt at [email protected]

Latest Episodes
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Ep #15 How a weekend session of vibe coding led to a fully-baked SaaS product
Kevin spends a family-free weekend “vibe coding” and accidentally builds a full SaaS: a multi-tenant lead magnet builder that creates custom, multi-step lead magnets…
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Ep #14 Baking Five Batches at Once: How AI Multitasking Is Rewiring Work (and Weekends)
Kevin and Elijah unpack why AI tooling feels brutally disposable right now, with yesterday’s “daily drivers” getting replaced fast. They compare meeting transcription tools,…
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Ep #17 You’re Using Meeting Recordings Wrong, Shadow AI and How Block Cut 4,000 Jobs
Shadow AI use is creating massive compliance risks that most organizations don’t even know exist yet. In this episode, Kevin Williams and Eli explore…
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Ep #13 AI Ads, the Era of Zero-Click, and NotebookLM Upgrades
Summary Elijah and Kevin trade war stories from the prompt trenches, and land on a counterintuitive rule, more context can make outputs worse. They…
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Ep #12 1.6 Million AI Agents Built a Social Network, And Humans Could Only Watch
Summary Elijah and Kevin zoom out on how weird modern work has become, then zoom way in on a weekend flashpoint: OpenClaw, a locally…
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Ep #11 Her vs. Iron Man: Why the Future of Work Has No Screens
Summary In this engaging conversation, Elijah Szasz and Kevin Williams delve into the evolving landscape of artificial intelligence (AI) and its implications for society…
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Ep #10 The “Knowledge Graph”: The Missing Link Between Your CRM and AI
Summary Kevin finally gets a nickname (Kevlar wins), then brings back field notes from LA: even smart execs are still stuck at AI 101,…
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Ep #9 Why Some Early Adopters of AI Are So Stressed (The Busywork Paradox)
Summary Elijah and Kevin kick off the new year with a blunt reality check, AI is not just “a tool,” it is reshaping how…
Why We Created This Podcast
Our mission is to help professionals navigate the fast-evolving world of AI with clarity and confidence.
These conversations go beyond theory we speak with the people implementing AI across businesses, education, and public sectors.
Each episode gives you practical insights you can apply today.
Meet Our Host
Kevin Williams
AI Advisor and Trainer of Leaders | Investor, Builder, Speaker, Executive Coach
Elijah Szasz
Founder | Follow to leverage AI in Products & Leadership
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