
Where AI Meets the Real World of Work

AI at Work is hosted by Elijah Szasz (CEO of SPARK6) and Kevin Williams (CEO of Ascend Labs). Each week delivers actionable insights on how artificial intelligence is reshaping jobs today, and how you can use it to advance your career. We unpack real-world tools, automation workflows, and emerging roles so you can stop chasing hype and start using AI to get things done. Whether you’re an individual contributor, team lead, or business owner, we show you what to build, what to ask for, and what to look for in a workplace moving at machine-speed.
What does AI implementation actually look like when you move beyond the hype? Aaron Wilt, CEO of 40-person Pulse V Holdings, shares the unfiltered reality of deploying AI in a mid-market business where technical sophistication meets organizational complexity.
This conversation reveals why even leaders who deeply understand AI struggle with organizational deployment, and what it really takes to bridge the gap between AI demos and business transformation. Aaron breaks down the “trust calibration” problem, the three-way intersection most companies lack, and why winners use AI to win harder while others get left behind.
Key topics covered:
✅ The implementation bottleneck – why technical knowledge isn’t enough
✅ Trust calibration – when 85% AI accuracy is acceptable vs. dangerous
✅ Building AI teams – pairing skeptics with dreamers for maximum impact
✅ Control vs. scale – centralized innovation vs. distributed adoption
✅ The SaaSpocalypse – how AI enables internal capability building
✅ Risk management – deterministic vs. probabilistic AI applications
✅ Team dynamics – getting non-technical staff to adopt AI tools
✅ Future-proofing – what to tell kids about AI and careers
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 — Introduction and Aaron’s background
03:00 — AI evolution: Chat bot to context to orchestration eras
08:00 — The probabilistic nature problem and trust calibration
15:00 — Current AI stack and team adoption at Pulse V
22:00 — Risk management and process controls
28:00 — The SaaSpocalypse and internal capability building
31:00 — Organizational challenges and people dynamics
38:00 — Developer resistance and team composition
42:00 — Future education and closing thoughts
Show Notes & Links: https://www.spark6.com/podcast
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