Where AI Meets the Real World of Work

AI at Work is hosted by Matt Graham (CEO of Rapid Dev) and Kevin Williams (CEO of Ascend Labs). Each week delivers actionable insights on how artificial intelligence is reshaping jobs today, and how you can use it to advance your career. We unpack real-world tools, automation workflows, and emerging roles so you can stop chasing hype and start using AI to get things done. Whether you’re an individual contributor, team lead, or business owner, we show you what to build, what to ask for, and what to look for in a workplace moving at machine-speed.
Most organizations pick AI tools by asking the wrong question. They benchmark capability, compare feature lists, and choose the most powerful option then wonder why adoption stalls at 10-15% six months later. Kevin and Matt Graham dig into the real selection criteria leaders should be using, and why usability almost always beats raw capability when it comes to organizational ROI.
This episode started as a debate about Lovable the vibe coding platform that just raised $400M at a $13B valuation and turned into a broader conversation about what it actually takes to get AI working across an entire organization, not just in the hands of your most technical people.
Kevin and Matt cover the Lovable debate from both sides (Kevin’s been burned, Matt’s a believer), the emerging governance risks of agentic AI tools like Grokbot, why vendor lock-in is a real concern that organizations need to plan for, and where Google, XAI, and the competitive model landscape are actually headed.
Key topics covered:
✅ Why usability beats capability as an AI tool selection criterion
✅ Lovable’s enterprise evolution what’s changed and what hasn’t
✅ Vendor lock-in: how to preserve optionality without abandoning a useful tool
✅ Grokbot and agentic AI the governance risks organizations aren’t ready for
✅ The competitive model landscape: XAI’s rise, Google’s pivot, and what it means for token costs
✅ Why spreading AI licenses without organizational context produces nothing
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Why We Created This Podcast
Our mission is to help professionals navigate the fast-evolving world of AI with clarity and confidence.
These conversations go beyond theory we speak with the people implementing AI across businesses, education, and public sectors.
Each episode gives you practical insights you can apply today.
Meet Our Host
Kevin Williams
AI Advisor and Trainer of Leaders | Investor, Builder, Speaker, Executive Coach
Elijah Szasz
Founder | Follow to leverage AI in Products & Leadership
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